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What do you think is the state of homebrews.  Commercial cam are getting better pics from what i see.  We still  hold a advantage on pic quality but not to what it used to be.  We can crop our pics and they still pixel out.  They can do more things than we do but I have always thought the simpler things are the better.  We have more people doing hacks and sharing the information.  This is exciting to me to see more people exploring.  I see new cams listed so it is still moving forward.  I do not use commercial cams so everything I just said is wrong.  I am only going by the pics I see being posted.  Do you think the homebrew community is going in the right direction.  Just what do you think.
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You forgot the advantage of being able to repair homebrews. That was one of the big reasons I came aboard. Something goes wrong with a commercials there's a good chance its bond for the dump. Its also the satisfaction of knowing I put this together. Kinda like my muzzleloader I just finished. Its neat to see the diff board makers adding new functions and programs all the time.
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That is how I promote this sight is if you build it you can fix it.  I have this on my banner for the sight.  It confuses people that someone is willing to show you how to build a cam.  They feel there is a catch to it.  I don`t make anything, it actually costs me money to do this but it is a fun Hobby.[smile]  I look at this as a hobby not a business and it shows.
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Charles, I started with a commercial cam but I have more appreciation for the images I get with the homebrews. The added bonus of the homebrews is that it is makes me put out more cameras. I probably would have only used the commercial cameras for early scouting and now I look forward to getting a build finished and out in the woods throughout the year. From a cost perspective with our Canadian dollar commercial cams and homebrews are about the same maybe even a little higher but I get many more hours of enjoyment from hacking and building homebrews. in short I hope the state of homebrews continues to move forward. I would never have attempted my first build without the support of the homebrew community.
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I really like the fact that for under$150.00 we can build a camera that will take better quality pics than the top of the line $600.00 commercial cam! Before homebrewing I had 4 commercial cams(not cheap ones either) that had to be sent back to the factory to be replaced or repaired within the first year.While the commercial cams are improving....so is the homebrew technology.We are really lucky to have the sites like this to help us along....and also suppliers like RC Davis,Snapshot Sniper.JTS and JDH and others that are always on the "cutting edge"...so the homebrews are progressing every bit as much as the commercial cams..if not more. And you are right Charles,this is a fun hobby,but a little addicting!  LOL
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Like a lot of folks I started with a commercial camera and still have one that's four years old, has been out almost constantly and is still working (amazing!). But, homebrews take better photos and they're fun to build -- and I prefer white flash photos. I have 13 homebrews out now and enough cameras on hand to build that many more -- at least. If it hadn't been for the info available on the forums, especially Charles' videos, there are a few models I never would have opened up. A big "Thank You" to everyone who contributes to the forums.
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I believe this is my third hear into the homebrew hobby.like the others stated I also used commercial cams in the past and would only get a year of two out of them, and that was only during the summer months and fall foe deer season.the first build I purchased and was impressed how durable it was,and I have'mt looked back.once into this hobby there are so many other things to get pics. Of other than just deer and I found myself running cameras year round.i don't even look at commercial cams anymore, there just something about building a camera and getting many years of life out of it.what I like is being able to fix your own cameras.even if you have to replace a overpriced s600 off eBay it is still cheaper than what it cost me to replace a commercial camera in the past.
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Ditto on all above. First commercial I got was a 35mm Moultrie and and got less then 2 weeks before it died and think only 6 pics. Sent back to Moultrie and it's when digitals were first coming out so they replaced it with that model. Picks look like the normal commercial ones, too dark and not sharp enough. Last one I got. Saw Charles S40 tutorial on AT so decided to do one. Think that was about 6 years ago and that one is still going. Part about cropping is great, hummingbird pics. I can crop right down so they're full screen and still crisp and have wings stopped. Dad got a Stealth cam and ANY movement and it's all blurry, sometimes so much not to be able to tell what it was. IR sucks on it. Most of the guys up here say they could care less about sharpness just want to know what's there. Every year though I make my buddy a calendar made with cam pics. from mine and everyone says how crisp they are but that's about it trying to talk to them about them.
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It is hard to get people to conceive they can build a cam that takes better pics than a commercial cam.  They are brainwashed into this thinking with advertisements.
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Charles when guys aren't around their buddy's and see my pictures they are all supportive and asking about it but as soon as the buddy's are around they do a 180 and start cutting them up esp. when one of them starts spouting off that their cam NEVER misses anything unlike mine. I had even taken the same came he was using and set a S40 on one side of the trail and his Cuddy IR on the other side (about 10' apart) and focused them on a spot 12' away. I got 4X as may pics. A bunch of them were of a deer standing right at the spot! We both had almost an identical pic. of a deer and comparison wise the S40 blew his away. There was a coyote that he got that was at the spot that mine didn't get but that was the only one. Thought someone said above about peer pressure holding some people back.
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I can`t understand peer pressure.  If I can do something with my hands then I will do it.  Everyone hear that builds his own cam should have great pride in what they made.  If someone wants to degrade that then they have a issue.  No one will try that bs with me because I have the confidence in myself to tell them where to go. 
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Sad, sad commentary if adults let peers influence what they do when they've been shown there's a better way to do it. Even if we ever let peers influence us, that should end by the time we graduate from high school.

All cameras miss something sometimes, and when the commercial cameras die they miss everything. I've ruined a couple of cameras trying to hack them, but only one has died out in the field and that was replaced with a $5 "broken" S40 that I had fixed in less than ten minutes -- tell them to try that with a commercial camera.

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I'm glad I don't have problems with people talking down on my homebrews. Most people I talk to are surprised and think its neat. I couldn't talk my brother into building one, but at least got him to buy a P32/bigfoot off here. I have 3 commercialss, 2 I got with a combo deal with homebrews early this summer. Guess what, 1 of those doesn't work now and the other one takes awful pics. Both of those are cuddies. I also have that one I took from the trespasser, Bushel, and crap pics day or night. Hard to get a non blury pic even of just myself. I would still rather stick with my homebrews. Unless people are giving me commercial cams or they are in a good bundle with homebrews, I won't be buying commercial ones.
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They all will fail but I have cams that are 10 years old and still going. 
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I really like the picture quality with homebrews. When I post a few pics on a hunting fourm, the comments are always wow, what kind of camera is that!
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I really like the picture quality with homebrews. When I post a few pics on a hunting fourm, the comments are always wow, what kind of camera is that!


lol   thats fun hearing those comments
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My father in law just bought a couple wildgame innovations. He said they are 7mp. He has seen homebrew pics from a P32, S40, and Nikon S560 and likes the pictures. We'll see how he likes his cams. I showed him some pics from the Bushnell I have that was over my truck. He commented how clear the truck was. I showed him some of me moving and how some were blurry and some were OK. Maybe I'll have him switched over soon. Maybe he will buy parts and let me build them, lol.
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Some people no matter what you show them they just cannot imagine something that is not bought from a company can be better.  Consumers are brainwashed with this idea.  I have shown so may people that my pics are better and my batter life is pretty good.  Yet they still will not buy a homebrew.  There is a person on archerytalk named LFM and he considers himself a homebrew genious.  He knows all the flaws of homebrews.  This guy is so clueless.  He bases everything off of old info and he must have got some bad builds because he says bad battery life.  Some people are just idiots and will never change.
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I have had a few conversations with LFM too Charles, usually when I get thru setting the jerk straight it ends up with no further comments from him.
I've never sold anything to him, nor would I ever consider it, but I'm not at all shy about ruffling his feathers once in awhile....

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He gets pretty mad at me to.  I have had fun getting him excited.
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